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Old Mar 13, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #1
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Default Gate Guard Torin needs more options for LDoA

I notice that there is still no way to get into the Northland by oneself. I currently show on the Defender of Ascalon Title Track *Level 14/20*. I will not pay gate hookers for access to the enemy, nor should I have to. Once the title track is initiated then one should be able to go and speak to Gate Guard Torin and be allowed access if the character has no other players in their party.

Currently if a gate hooker charges 50g at 20 players go thru 14th and 15th levels only, then they will make over 300,000 gold. There is no reason for this to exist. There is no reason to have that kind of money in Pre. There is no storage. There should be no gate hookers whatsoever.

Again, Once a character has the title track active for LDoA then while alone they should be able to gain access to the Northland through dialogue with Gate Guard Torin.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57   #2
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/signed FINALLY a benefit for the title!
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22   #3
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I kind of like the gate hookers, as it helps to spread the wealth in the pre economy. otherwise, its just the LDoA'ers who have the huge cash, and the rest of the ppl r begging for scraps.

you do have a good idea though for the actual title hunters.

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Old Mar 13, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26   #4
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Lots of poeple have obtain the title without those changes your asking.

Those poeple your call hookers are the equivalent of runners in post. Just look for someone nice enough to open the gate for free. I,m sure you 'l find some if you dont call them that way.

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Old Mar 13, 2008, 04:35 AM // 04:35   #5
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There are ways to get into the Northlands without a gate hooker. Maybe you could explore those other options. The restricted access has nothing to do with LDoA. It has been there before the title was even a thought in some players mind, or Anets schedule book.

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And I do not have LDoA, nor do I even have a Pre-searing character.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16   #6
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Even if u are not seriously doing LDoA, you will know that one trip to the wall will bring you much more than 50g to pay for the gate monkeys.

So, i don't see any reason to make the entrance to the wall free.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 10:08 AM // 10:08   #7
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You do know that it takes ~2 minutes to take someone to open gate, which means in an hour they make...1500g. That's really not that much.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 10:21 AM // 10:21   #8
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You do know that it takes ~2 minutes to take someone to open gate, which means in an hour they make...1500g. That's really not that much.

ya, it's pretty terrible acctually. I only farma casually, and my best K/hour was 15 lol.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 10:29 AM // 10:29   #9
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You do know that it takes ~2 minutes to take someone to open gate, which means in an hour they make...1500g. That's really not that much.
It isn't all about the gold. There are a lot of idiots who are determined to stay with you even though you gave them their fee, to leech XP and loot at lvl2. XP is hard enough to come by when you're lvl 15+ and it's a waste of time when someone leeches half of it.

"Pls i need xp pls pls."
"I heal u ok???"
"why cant i join?"


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Old Mar 13, 2008, 11:01 AM // 11:01   #10
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It isn't all about the gold. There are a lot of idiots who are determined to stay with you even though you gave them their fee, to leech XP and loot at lvl2. XP is hard enough to come by when you're lvl 15+ and it's a waste of time when someone leeches half of it.

"Pls i need xp pls pls."
"I heal u ok???"
"why cant i join?"


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Old Mar 13, 2008, 11:24 AM // 11:24   #11
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Pre-Searing is serious business. Srsly.

This really is not needed, and I hope ANet has better uses for their time.

Also, why should this only be available for level 14 and above? Why not everyone? Why should someone's title allow them any special advantage? Oh, wait.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 11:49 AM // 11:49   #12
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Wow, being miserly about lousy 50g really is going to be hard to top in GWG from now on.

If you really want that Grindy AFK title, then be prepared to either;

get friendly with players to help you for free (enough new players play in pre-searing for you to ask)

or to do extremely long farming runs to collect the 50g for your gate openers if you dont get on with other normal players (10 minutes on the nice side of teh gate should do... or less than half a run on the "bad" side).

There are so many good sugestions out there, im afriad this is not one of them as it isnt worth the effort to change that part of the game because players not wanting to pay a pittance.

deffinitely /not signed

P.S. I dont have a perma-pre character, so im not posting this to make loads of money as a gatehooker/monkey/opener
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #13
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I have a permapre character going for LDoA at present. He's at Level 17.24. I always try to pay the 50g to my gate monkeys. Why? I sell all my stuff from killing the DLevel (which is the lowest income you can get out of the Northlands when it comes to Charr), and still net 150-250g AFTER the gate monkey charge. It's sets of 50g I'm not particularly using. Heck, my armor is completely black and I own a Necrid Horseman.

So /notsigned, because /nopoint
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10   #14
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I like being a gate monkey 50 gold a pop Im on my way to Obsidian Armor

Honestly = It is rather stupid and I do think you should explore alone
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46   #15
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Those poeple your call hookers are the equivalent of runners in post.
I like to think that running takes some thought and skill (more skill depending on the run). Maybe not much, but it is a lot more difficult than running over to a lever (where you get no aggro on the way there) and pulling it.

Also, prefer the term gate monkey.

Finally, I agree with OP. It isn't about the money, it is about taking the time to find someone to do it. (Not real big on the perma-pre thing either)

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Old Mar 13, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #16
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Currently if a gate hooker charges 50g at 20 players go thru 14th and 15th levels only, then they will make over 300,000 gold. There is no reason for this to exist. There is no reason to have that kind of money in Pre. There is no storage. There should be no gate hookers whatsoever.
you were bitching earlier about not being able to make money.

get rich this way and stop complaining about being poor.

safe fast only takes 2 minutes max

selfish to want everything free to lord it.

50 is nothing compared to the drops you get there.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32   #17
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Its just a business like running in post. I don't see why people shouldn't be able to make money off of it.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03   #18
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I forget - WHY is Torin too busy to walk 5 yards over to the lever for you?
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #19
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/not signed

This doesn't seem a big deal enough to change.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05   #20
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Maybe the Guard could allow to pass by talking to him if all party members have already beaten the "Across the Wall" quest.

The only other way to get there is by using a Birthday cupcake to run from the lever to the door.
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